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can complex thought exist without language?

it was interesting...I still believe that thought without language can only take you so far...it's like a computer with no OS.


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In response to kaikaoru At 10:17 pm cloud132475860 Said :
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the one below is in correlation the the caveman comment
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In response to kaikaoru At 10:16 pm cloud132475860 Said :
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There is where your theory is wrong they had a writen language they communicated through pictographs
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At 05:31 pm kaikaoru Said :
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I think bees are a great example of body language. They can tell each other using a dance, where nectar is, how far away and such, and other bees can go and fly there, and they get all the information they need from watching this 'dance'.... amazing. But yes, they do need eyes and ears and such, but thats all part of the body. This plant theory is very interesting, maybe one day, someone will be able to explain it...
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At 05:26 pm demonsorrows Said :
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Yes, but body language is still done with sight. without eyes you couldn't see it. without ears you could hear the spoken language. Plants almost at their very core when they're in danger send out a signal to others of their kind to prepare for attack. It's unknown how they do it, but it's believed, or at least in the way I'd say, a form of kinetic communication. Possibly a gene that connects them even from slightly long distances. they have no vocal cords, no ears, eyes, no sense of smell(as far as we know), so it is a strange thing indeed.
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In response to madmarcus At 05:25 pm ttPUMAtt Said :
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Psssht, no need to be sorry. Just remember next time, or I'ma beat yo' ass.
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At 05:17 pm kaikaoru Said :
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a smile is body language, and if you just look at the phrase, 'body language'... says it all. It is probably more accurate than any other spoken language.
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At 05:15 pm demonsorrows Said :
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language is any form of communication. Throwing a rock at someone could be consider a language in it's own. It in itself expresses personal opinion just as much as a smile. In all reality, plants have a more sophisticated communication network with each other than humans.
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In response to ttPUMAtt At 05:15 pm madmarcus Said :
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Right on! what I was getting at exactly.
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In response to ttPUMAtt At 05:14 pm madmarcus Said :
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involuntary. right. sorry. but you got my point. I think Ill have to read the rest of yours.....oh wait some half wit is spamming for me to get a life. or that my life isn't up to his standards...beter yet his life isn't up to his standards but wrather then correct his malady he projects it on others...hmmmm somebody wasn't breast fed long enough
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At 05:10 pm kaikaoru Said :
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surely a caveman who doesn't speak, but can create a tool must be considering complex thoughts without language. In our current time, someone needs to be taught a lot to catch up to what we as humans have already discovered and know. But if you go back, surely at some point, there must have been extreme ideas and complex thoughts without language?... possibly?
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In response to madmarcus At 04:58 pm ttPUMAtt Said :
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Breathing is involuntary, not a reflex.

Either way, the best example I have of "complex simplicity" is DNA strands. Easily the most complicated thing about nature we have discovered (so far). However, it only contains two pairs of bases, A-T and C-G. For some reason, these two pairs can come together millions of times in all sorts of different orders (but never A from T nor C from G) and becomes a schematic for life? It's ridiculously complex in an ultra-simplistic way.
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